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	<title>Comments on: On Greige</title>
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		<title>By: davidjcarney</title>
		<link>http://visualingual.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/on-greige/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>davidjcarney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t it Tom Robbins who first identified &quot;Beige-ah vu?&quot;  That&#039;s the feeling you have when you could swear you&#039;ve seen that shade of beige somewhere before.  Although he was describing the Seattle skyline, but still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t it Tom Robbins who first identified &#8220;Beige-ah vu?&#8221;  That&#8217;s the feeling you have when you could swear you&#8217;ve seen that shade of beige somewhere before.  Although he was describing the Seattle skyline, but still.</p>
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		<title>By: visualingual</title>
		<link>http://visualingual.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/on-greige/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>visualingual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ehh, I don&#039;t know that lack of growth should necessarily be seen as a problem, and I find some of the recent efforts at YP-pandering laughable; I wonder if they&#039;re successful and what that success really means.

At my greige workplace, I sometimes felt like I should be an OTR ambassador, but then I realized that I don&#039;t really care what my colleagues think. It&#039;s where I live, so it&#039;s clearly livable to me, and that&#039;s enough of a statement. I don&#039;t need to convince anyone to move/shop/dine/hang out here. Who cares?

Same thing with the workplace itself: it wasn&#039;t the right fit for me, the trade-offs stopped being worthwhile, so I left. It&#039;s not like I was in a position to change that place and, anyway, it seems to work just fine for a lot of people. So, I just make these adjustments to try to live the kind of life I want to live. Like I said, that&#039;s really the only kind of activism that seems to make sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehh, I don&#8217;t know that lack of growth should necessarily be seen as a problem, and I find some of the recent efforts at YP-pandering laughable; I wonder if they&#8217;re successful and what that success really means.</p>
<p>At my greige workplace, I sometimes felt like I should be an OTR ambassador, but then I realized that I don&#8217;t really care what my colleagues think. It&#8217;s where I live, so it&#8217;s clearly livable to me, and that&#8217;s enough of a statement. I don&#8217;t need to convince anyone to move/shop/dine/hang out here. Who cares?</p>
<p>Same thing with the workplace itself: it wasn&#8217;t the right fit for me, the trade-offs stopped being worthwhile, so I left. It&#8217;s not like I was in a position to change that place and, anyway, it seems to work just fine for a lot of people. So, I just make these adjustments to try to live the kind of life I want to live. Like I said, that&#8217;s really the only kind of activism that seems to make sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://visualingual.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/on-greige/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, grammatical issues there:

*I&#039;m not sure exactly what aspects you worried about assimilating to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, grammatical issues there:</p>
<p>*I&#8217;m not sure exactly what aspects you worried about assimilating to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://visualingual.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/on-greige/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it does sometimes take the objectivity of outsiders to appreciate what we have, yet I think the problem that the city has faced for a long time is trying figure out how to draw outsiders to come (and eventually reside) here.  I may be wrong, but I think our heydays (within recent history) were in the 70s &amp; 80s.

Anyway, you&#039;re right on about the &#039;corporate&#039; lifestyle - I took the exact same perspective.  I&#039;m not sure what exactly you were worried about assimilating too, but mine was money.  So much so that I turned down a higher paying job because I was afraid of getting too comfortable, too sucked in to the materialization it would&#039;ve afforded me.  Life is way too short for that kind compromise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it does sometimes take the objectivity of outsiders to appreciate what we have, yet I think the problem that the city has faced for a long time is trying figure out how to draw outsiders to come (and eventually reside) here.  I may be wrong, but I think our heydays (within recent history) were in the 70s &amp; 80s.</p>
<p>Anyway, you&#8217;re right on about the &#8216;corporate&#8217; lifestyle &#8211; I took the exact same perspective.  I&#8217;m not sure what exactly you were worried about assimilating too, but mine was money.  So much so that I turned down a higher paying job because I was afraid of getting too comfortable, too sucked in to the materialization it would&#8217;ve afforded me.  Life is way too short for that kind compromise.</p>
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		<title>By: visualingual</title>
		<link>http://visualingual.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/on-greige/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>visualingual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably the most valuable lesson I learned at this workplace was that I was less bothered by not fitting in than I was by the possibility of eventually assimilating. So, I quietly resisted the things about that place that didn&#039;t dovetail with my own values or priorities [and spending time there definitely helped me figure out what those were].

When people complain about Cincinnati being backward, I&#039;m somewhat puzzled. I&#039;ve never met so many interesting people so quickly. When I hear the rallying cries for a downtown supermarket, I marvel. I&#039;ve never had more convenient access to so much excellent, varied food, all at non-Dean &amp; Delucca prices. It&#039;s so easy for me to eat well here. Did you know that Findlay accepts Food Stamps, even at the farmer&#039;s market? How&#039;s that for backward? Sometimes, I think it takes an outsider, without baggage or expectations, to objectively assess and appreciate a place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the most valuable lesson I learned at this workplace was that I was less bothered by not fitting in than I was by the possibility of eventually assimilating. So, I quietly resisted the things about that place that didn&#8217;t dovetail with my own values or priorities [and spending time there definitely helped me figure out what those were].</p>
<p>When people complain about Cincinnati being backward, I&#8217;m somewhat puzzled. I&#8217;ve never met so many interesting people so quickly. When I hear the rallying cries for a downtown supermarket, I marvel. I&#8217;ve never had more convenient access to so much excellent, varied food, all at non-Dean &amp; Delucca prices. It&#8217;s so easy for me to eat well here. Did you know that Findlay accepts Food Stamps, even at the farmer&#8217;s market? How&#8217;s that for backward? Sometimes, I think it takes an outsider, without baggage or expectations, to objectively assess and appreciate a place.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://visualingual.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/on-greige/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, cubicle life - I loathed every day of mine.  I was so offbeat, I decided to leave it for school again.  Talk about running... yet, no more greige; actually, most days that&#039;s a really good thing, but some days it&#039;s bad.

Currently I&#039;m (temporarily) residing with the geese you speak of - sad thing is people out here are so consumed with their cars that they keep running them over.  It&#039;s really crazy.


Beautifully written piece.  Not very often does a post encompass me the way that yours just did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, cubicle life &#8211; I loathed every day of mine.  I was so offbeat, I decided to leave it for school again.  Talk about running&#8230; yet, no more greige; actually, most days that&#8217;s a really good thing, but some days it&#8217;s bad.</p>
<p>Currently I&#8217;m (temporarily) residing with the geese you speak of &#8211; sad thing is people out here are so consumed with their cars that they keep running them over.  It&#8217;s really crazy.</p>
<p>Beautifully written piece.  Not very often does a post encompass me the way that yours just did.</p>
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